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Defending the Sri Lankan Penis December 18, 2006

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The reputation of the Sri Lankan penis is under attack. I got a call from T today and he was concerned about about Indi’s latest post that covers the Indian penis study as reported by the BBC.

I kind of see T’s point. These things are national secrets. If you suspect your collective national tackle is too small for standard-size condoms, you DON’T do a f*cking study on it and publish the results. The Indians should have kept this more secret than the details of their Indian nuclear programme. (Then again, they didn’t keep that very secret either). What’s with these Indians? Talking about it isn’t going to make it any bigger, is it?

Look at the Chinese. They don’t go around measuring their tackle, no matter how bad their reputation for being less well-endowed. It affects national pride and the equity of your national brand takes a big hit. You could say the Indians did it for a good cause – birth control, but again, the Chinese have the right approach. “Okay, so the condoms don’t fit; lets legalize abortion and have a one-child policy instead.” Priorities man, priorities.

And please, don’t lump Sri Lankans in the same boat. This study was on Indian men, not on Sri Lankans, and there is every reason to think that Sri Lankan males are better endowed than Indians. For one thing, the average Sri Lankan gets better nutrition than the average Indian, as evidenced by the vastly different national health indicators. Quality of nutrition is related to body size and the development of body parts, presumably including the penis. Therefore, the Sri Lankan penis could very well be larger.

Secondly, according, to the study 90% of Indian men have penises shorter than 6.1 inches. That seems pretty extreme to me. A quick check with some Sri Lankan mates of mine, and not a single seems to fit under this range. Admittedly my research method is flawed – the sample size is small, and it is not representative. And, of course, I didn’t go round with a ruler and measure their erect penises. I just asked them… so they could be lying.

Thirdly, there are reasons to think that ecological environments in isolation lead to bigger average specimens of certain species: the bears on Kodiak island, as opposed to the grizzlies in the rest of
Alaska, for instance. Another example, is the Sri Lankan leopard, when compared with the Indian. The climatic conditions on this tropical island are very different to most of
India, and I think there is every reason to think average penis size may well be different. We really can’t make definitive judgments based purely on this Indian study.

Phew.

I always suspected that there was a reason that Ravana managed to “kidnap” Sita so easily.

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1. jokerma - December 18, 2006

thank goodness. about time people bega worrying about what climate and which food grow biggest dick.

2. Sam - December 18, 2006

Why no one talk about penis size of the Jews?

3. zbili - December 19, 2006

Thus nicely underscoring Indi’s point:

Honestly, penis size seems to be most discussed among men … I think size matters psychologically, but far more to the guy than the girl.

And I will personally vouch for the quality-over-quantity argument — a gentle, clever lover is nicer and hotter than a clumsy sausage-shover.

4. Ravana - December 19, 2006

The truth of the quality over quantity argument notwithstanding, the idea that size does not matter is bullshit.

5. zbili - December 19, 2006

Whaddaya mean, the truth notwithstanding?? Lovely string of syllables, but kinda negates the validity of whatever follows a statement in which you say “it may be true, but it’s not true”.

Well… it doesn’t have to be one or the other – matters or doesn’t matter. It seems like the degree to which many men I know obsess over dick size, of their own or those of friends or stereotyped groups or whoever, is way out of proportion to how much size alone seems to matter to women. The range of ok is pretty much anything bigger than is-it-in-yet tiny and smaller than painfully huge.

So sure, it does matter — to men. Maybe on that GGRRRR! competitive-reproductive level. Feminist notwithstanding, I think we’re different that way.

6. Ravana - December 19, 2006

The meaning of that last sentence is pretty simple. While it is true that quality is more important than quantity, that doesn’t mean that size does not matter. Quality and quantity are not mutually exclusive in terms of importance.

Agree with you that men are more obsessed with size than women. However, yesterday I met a girl who told me that she had to dump an otherwise attractive guy because the sight of his three-inch appendage made her feel ill. That’s one example. There are tons more. I think it makes a psychological difference, mostly to men, but also to women. And, while I agree with Indi that men are probably more visual, I think people discount how important visual cues can be to women as well.

Also, this post was meant to be more Richard Prior than Richard Dawkins i.e. I’m not being serious.

7. Anoton - December 19, 2006

In the first place, Indians and Sri Lankans are of more or less the same genetic stock. What applies to the Indian penis must apply to the Sri Lankan, and other SOuth Asian penises.

Second, the correct way to measure length is from the TOP not the bottom. The ruler shoudl rest on the base of the stomach, not the testicles. Place a ruler at the top of the penis when fully erect and read off the inches at the head. I suspect that most Sri Lankan men are about 4-5 inches in length when fully erect.

8. anon gal - December 19, 2006

Sam: I’ve see some pretty healthy sized jewish todgers. I don’t think they are as challenged as the South Aisan male. Don’t think they are particularly large or small, perhaps that’s why no one talks about them.

Size doesn’t matter that much but if it’s 3 inches long what in god’s name are you going to do with it? You need something otherwise it’s no good to anyone. Also, instead of strutting about feeling good that their willies are big, guys should spend more time thinking about how they are going to stimulate women in a number of ways. Some of y’all are atrocious. Others, thankfully, very gifted and a joy to be with.

9. ravana - December 19, 2006

Anoton – you’re basing these suspicions on what? And you’re discounting the nutrition aspect in the development of the penis. Gotta read up on this myself, actually.

10. ghostwriter - December 19, 2006

I know! Get Ferraris to compensate.

And on that vein, wonder about the size of this guy’s penis.

11. Hung-well-a - December 19, 2006

Anoton when you say that Sri Lankans are more or less from Indian stock, which Indians are you referring to? – North Indians, Bengalis or South Indians – to name a few? Similarly when you say Sri Lankans whom exactly are you referring to? What with European, Aryan, Dravidian and Arab descendents (not forgetting those of South East Asian stock) being amongst the Sri Lankan populace.

Being an Island nation (and more importantly a trading hub) we have been exposed to significant genetic diversity throughout our history so it is arguable that the Indian genetic component (vis-à-vis penis length) may have been diluted if indeed it is a disadvantage in terms of sexual selection. I say it is a disadvantage because contrary to statements in previous posts there is evidence to point that penis length does indeed matter in terms of reproductive success (both in terms of actual reproduction as well as selection as a viable mate by females).

According to the following study by Perrett DI, Lee KJ, Penton-Voak I, Rowland D, Yoshikawa S, Burt DM, Henzi SP, Castles DL, Akamatsu S (1998)

“Testosterone-dependent secondary sexual characteristics in males may signal immunological competence and are sexually selected for in several species”
(“Effects of sexual dimorphism on facial attractiveness”. Nature 94 (6696): 884-7) http://www.neoteny.org/a/femalesexualselection.html

Therefore assuming the above being a valid, observable trait in humans as well, coupled with the fact that higher levels of testosterone are directly related to increased phallic length (http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2605.1999.00158.x) it is possible to conclude that better endowed males have a greater chance of sexual selection by females (if one were to accept the aspect of “shift theory” that states that sexual selection is to some extent determined by the males suitability in the eyes of females rather than the other way around).

Likewise, according to Robert L. Smith (1984):

“An excessively large penis produced by epigamic selection would be no less effective in delivering sperm than one of optimal length, but a substantially shorter (than optimal) penis would obviously place its owner’s ejaculates at a disadvantage in competition with those deposited by a longer organ. Therefore it may be possible to test some predictions of the ejaculate delivery/sperm competition hypothesis for human penis length and distinguish this function from one of display.”
(Human Sperm Competition. in Sperm Competition and the Evolution of Animal Mating Systems pp. 631)

Similarly, according to Fisher, H (1992):

“We do not know why men have conspicuous genitals, but a male chimp solicits a female by opening his legs, displaying an erect penis and flicking his phallus with a finger as he gazes at a potential partner. A prominent, distinctive penis helps broadcast one’s individuality and sexual vigour, which may lure female friends. In many species of insects and primates, males have exceptionally elaborate penises, and scientists think these evolved specifically because females chose those males with elaborate, sexually stimulating genitals. So perhaps as Lucy’s ancestors became bipedal some four million years ago, males began to parade their genitals in order to make special friends with favoured females–selecting for those with large organs.”
Anatomy of Love: The Mysteries of Mating, Marriage, and Why We Stray. Simon & Schuster, New York, 1992. pp. 177)

Of course other physical characteristics play a large part in sexual selection but to dismiss the role played by the size of the “roll” is negligent.

Genetic diversity is another key element in sexual attraction and sexual suitability – as it confers better immunological competence on those of a mixed racial background. Now better immunological competence may not be directly linked to penis length but if the above observations hold true then it is arguable that well endowed, racially mixed individuals would be at an advantage in the sexual selection process than those just well endowed or just racially mixed. Thus with Sri Lankans being a racially diverse nation for a significant period of time, it is likely that we are not only advantaged in terms of immunological competence but in phallic superiority as well in comparison not only to our Northern neighbours but to other nations as well. Throw in better nutrition and it’s basically a lock.

However, a closer look at the diverse races amongst the Sri Lankan population would highlight an advantage to some over others. Rushton, J.P. & Bogaert, A.F. (1987) stated the following:

“We averaged the ethnographic data on erect penis and found the means to approximate: Orientals, 4 to 5.5 in. in length and 1.25 in. in diameter; Caucasians, 5.5 to 6 in. in length and 1.5 in. in diameter; blacks, 6.25 to 8 in. in length and 2 in. in diameter. Women were proportionate to men, with Orientals having smaller vaginas and blacks larger ones, relative to Caucasians. Clitoral size differed in length: in European women, 1.2 in.; in African women, 2 in. variations were noted; in French West Indies, the size of the penis and vagina co varied with amount of black admixture; Arab men, who were often mixed with black, had larger penises than Europeans”

Thus if we were to assume that the immunological advantage enjoyed by the SL male was uniformly apparent across all SL males, penis length would then play a larger role in determining sexual selection by females (SL or otherwise). Given that the direct African genetic influence in the Sri Lankan population is weak (I believe we have a small population of Ethiopian descendents living in Puttalam), according to the Rushton and Bogaert study, the next best endowed male should be of Arab descent and most likely Muslim. Therefore it is increasingly likely that most biologically advantaged Sri Lankan male would be a Muslim of Arab descent.

12. Sam - December 19, 2006

Humans already have biggest penis compared to the body. I guess deferent banana for deferent bun. :-)

13. Somawansa - December 20, 2006

Dude, screw the Indians, Chineese and Sri Lankans. We should be all thankfull for what we have once we look at the Japanese. I mean SHIT MAN !! Be thankfull you aint Japanese.

14. Anoton - December 20, 2006

My suspicion on penis size is based on a number of surveys that I have come across:

see example here:

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=697621

and measurement of my own member. I also have a freind who claims to be 6″ – he thinks he’s average but couple of girls he’s been with have told him he is large. (Note; this does not qualify as a proper survey, hence my term ‘suspicion’)

I don’t think nutrition plays much of a role in penis size, although it does contribute to overall development. I think the role nutrition plays in size is principally through growth in the bone structure, making better fed people larger and heavier.

Coming back to the Japanese, I think they have grown much taller and heavier since the beginning of the 20th century – but not sure if this has resulted in a corresponding increase in penis size.

Thanks Anon gal for coming out in favour of the ill-blessed, have been searching high and low on ways to learn proper technique (on video/DVD) but have not found anything good. Any pointers on good titles ?

15. Anoton - December 20, 2006

also to all the gals out there; does the G spot exist (in your own experience) and is it worth trying to get it to work?

16. David Blacker - December 20, 2006

Well, in this case, quantity CAN mean quality, no? Wouldn’t a woman rather have a guy with technique AND size over one with just technique? Just as a guy would rather have a beautiful woman who’s great in the sack over one who’s just great in the sack.

Anoton, what do you mean “get it to work”? It’s prettty user friendly I’ve found.

17. ravana - December 20, 2006

The following is on behalf of a substantiatedly well-endowed Sri Lankan friend of mine who would like to make the point that size does matter. He sent it via e-mail. I’m posting it here:

One characteristic among primates has been clearly targeted for possible selection by Fisherian female choice–male penis size. Primate males living in groups with many females and many males, groups in which promiscuity is the mating rule, have long penes (Dixon 1978). Male chimps, in fact, use their penis for display toward estrous females. Because a longer penis would give a female pleasure (note that the human male has the longest and thickest penis of any primate), female choice might have been a factor driving penis length to extremes among primates.” (Small, Meredith F. (1993) Female choices: Sexual behavior of female primates. Cornell Univ. Press, Ithaca, 1993 pp. 109)

“We do not know why men have conspicuous genitals, but a male chimp solicits a female by opening his legs, displaying an erect penis and flicking his phallus with a finger as he gazes at a potential partner. A prominant, distinctive penis helps broadcast one’s individuality and sexual vigor, which may lure female friends. In many species of insects and primates, males have exceptionally elaborate penises, and scientists think these evolved specifically because females chose those males with elaborate, sexally stimulating genitals. So perhaps as Lucy’s ancestors became bipedal some four million years ago, males began to parade their genitals in order to make special friends with favored females–selecting for those with large organs.” (Fisher, H. (1992) Anatomy of Love: The Mysteries of Mating, Marriage, and Why We Stray. Simon & Schuster, New York, 1992. pp. 177)

“The large average size of the human penis (five to six inches, versus three for chimps, and one-half that for gorillas) may have been, evolutionists speculate, to frighten other males. Or to attract females. Or to enhance their pleasure. Perhaps the best hypothesis is that the longer penis delivers sperm more closely to the eggs: today’s biologists claim that for females who mated with several males, the male with the longest penis delivered his sperm more safely.” (Margulis, L & Sagan, D. (1991) Mystery Dance, On the Evolution of Human Sexuality: Summit Books, New York pp. 23)

“An excessively large penis produced by epigamic selection would be no less effective in delivering sperm than one of optimal length, but a substantially shorter (than optimal) penis would obviously place its owner’s ejaculates at a disadvantage in competition with those deposited by a longer organ. Therefore it may be possible to test some predictions of the ejaculate delivery/sperm competition hypothesis for human penis length and distinguish this function from one of display.” (Robert L. Smith (1984) Human Sperm Competition. in Sperm Competition and the Evolution of Animal Mating Systems pp. 631)

http://www.neoteny.org/a/femalesexualselection.html

http://www.neoteny.org/a/testiclesize.html

18. Sophist - December 21, 2006

That chimps method is so uncomplicated. I wish our hoity toity birds responded to that. In fact I wish birds in general respond to us whipping it out and tapping it with a finger….aiyo.

19. ghostwriter - December 21, 2006

fumbling for a can of Mace, pointing and laughing or just running away can all be termed responses, Sophist :)

20. Tanya J. - December 22, 2006

I personally don’t think size affects a guy’s performance. It does however add to the overall experience. It’s the visual aspect of it, where you would definitely be turned on by the sight of an unusually large one. That doesn’t mean that we’d necessarily choose size over good performace. But we definitely want both quality and quantity!

21. Tina - December 22, 2006

it”s not what you have, its what you do with it

22. Janus - December 22, 2006

I say! All this talk about size being important or not.
I dont see guys being so discriminatory. What if a woman’s vagina is too large? Eh? Dump her saying its too small?
Or what if her chest is too small? Dump her again?
I dont think size matters if you are in love.
Or a guy. After all, a good boob is a naked boob..

23. Curious Yellow - December 22, 2006

The G spot is a fucking lie.
Methinks them girls are a-pissing.

24. Ah-it's-good-to-be-back-in-the-lankan-blogsphere! - December 22, 2006

If you don’t believe in the existence of the G-spot, a 10 inch penis wouldn’t make you appealing in bed. Dear lord man – get a bloody book if you don’t get the chance to learn these things through trial and error.

Firstly, girth matters a lot more than length. A penis with decent girth has a good chance to pressing against the G-spot. Length doesn’t do shit (that elusive G is not hidden somewhere up high near the ovaries)

In terms of length – let’s say it like this – within the range of 5.5 to 8 – I couldn’t care less. As you venture further away from that range (in either direction) yes, it could matter.

But the bigger problem is that guys with smaller penises are so damned insecure that they end up being fumbling idiots in bed. There’s an unfortunate relationship between quantity and quality.

So if you do have a small one, compensate with confidence and technique, not cars and bigger muslces. You might get a funny look when you pull down your pants – but you’ll change her mind soon enough.

25. Ayeshea - December 23, 2006

I’m all for Sri Lankan Superiority over Indians…. with you all the way Ravana!

26. zbili - December 24, 2006

Ahh, sextalk.

To continue our fine balance between civilized discussion and pr0n, and give some idea of what is meant by “quality”, “clever”, “get it to work”, and “technique”… a link to this fine bit of advice from my new favorite ecto- Sri Lanka blogger:

http://tinyurl.com/yh74hm

No, I have nothing original to say. Especially not that eloquently.

27. ravana - December 25, 2006

Curious Yellow and Anoton, there’s a lot of helpful sites on the internet about this stuff. I strongly urge you to check them out. Also, The Joy of Sex by Alex Comfort is still a good start, if a bit old.

If you can’t be arsed, try anterior wall, approx two inches up.

28. Anoton - December 26, 2006

Thanks zbili, good site. Let us know if you come across anytrhing in the way of a training video or any other sites? Any comments from the womenfolk on what pleases them most would also be most helpful.

29. saew - January 7, 2007

so, whats your penis size ravana ?
you want to share the stats with us ?

30. ravana - January 8, 2007

No. Despite all evidence to the contrary, I am not in the habit of publishing intimate details of my life on the internet!

31. Curious Yellow - January 20, 2007

Anterior wall two inches up just makes them feel “funny”.

The G-Spot is something male scientists lied about in order to make women fake orgasms during penetrative sex. It’s the inadequacy mentality you see. They think “surely the scientists wouldn’t lie to me?” and proceed to think this “funny” feeling they get when the “G-Spot” is “stimulated” is actually an orgasm and proceed to fake it. It’s such a damned good lie that most women believe it! It must be some sort of placebo effect, for we all know that the female orgasm takes more mental preparation than the ol’ rub and tug.

So the “G-spot” is a myth, but it’s not all bad news, as it turns out the clitoris isn’t!

P.S: Please forgive the over use of inverted commas.

32. no name aussie - November 7, 2007

I was with a Srilankan and I have to say he was pretty small but his friend who was also from Srilanka was big enough to feel properly(the first man wanted a 3sum but chicken out at the last minute). I have also been with an indian and although he is probably a little narrower than many australian men he is pretty long. I haven’t seen that many men(white or nonwhite) without pants on, but I do get a little lonely sometimes……….my thoughts are, if you srilankan men aren’t that well endowed you can do other things beside just penetration, what about using your tongues? Men aren’t the only ones who like being sucked. I have heard that south asian men love being sucked but they get a bit squemish about returning the favour, it is something to do with women being dirty, srilankan indian men wash their penises off straight after sex-Australian men don’t have the need to do that, not after one session.

33. bengali guy - January 26, 2008

im a bengali muslim and i know this is a penis test done in india and they tested about 1000 guys or 1300 but there are a more then a billion ppl in south asia, so does that really count for that plus in my family my brother made this home porno movie with his wife and i managed to see it and it was like a rocket about may be 9 inches and also my father i seen him when he was changing and he had big when he was flacid and i also got a above average penis i think its genetics.
and then you go to all these indian site where guys show there penis to attract women and some of them got monster dicks and some rigth up to the chest like a third leg , and i also live in england and i seen alot of small white penises but im not going to say they all have it but talking about ppl from italy i worked with a guy in the building trade and he pissed in a coke bottle and he had a penis like a white worm uncircumsized, and also india did it accuratly
the other penis test like knsey test was done by self measure but indian test was done by doctors getting a tape measurer and measuring it indian test is most accurate but only about 1000 guys is not enouth to say all south asians have that low india has to go and test 4000 ppl guys from each state thats the best way

34. bengali guy - January 26, 2008

india should break the lwa and legalize pornograpthy, and that way the world can see some of our big penii, and if they dont find many volunteer for that ill send my brother or ill go to india and save indian pride mind you i am a bangladeshi in origins
but i think we closely related with the sri lankans when king raju raju populated that area.

35. super penis - March 8, 2008

I got 12 inches penis,my wife say its’ so big for ger vagina. i am bothered by my penis size. penis size and vaginal depth are correlated. avaregae sri lankan or indian girlls vaginal depth are around 5-7 inches so if u have bigger than 7 inches ur girls cant get it fully.

so god gifted u for wht u can get in ur country

36. Ahamed Nizar - June 23, 2008

er firstly you have to be a woman to know about the G spot. its probably a myth for all we know but not until we find it.
ravana am loving this.

37. azahim - March 29, 2010

am 20 and i wnt make my pennis big and longer

38. Karl - February 17, 2011

Guys as you mentioned size is not a matter. In my sexual experience i had sex with 2unmarried girls and 1married but even now they are satisfied wit me and wil speak about it all de times. And my penis size is 13cms normal. And also my own brother married australian girl, now they had 2children,his wud be same as mine, so size doesn’t matter. Only thing is your performance in bed.if size really matters for sexual selection then world could be comprised of only africans. your theory failed.


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